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		<title>By: SMD</title>
		<link>http://www.jordanlapp.com/should-money-always-flow-towards-the-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-2379</link>
		<dc:creator>SMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, David said everything I think I was going to say, but in more accurate terms.

To be fair, most of the places that charge a reading fee are places I wouldn&#039;t submit to anyway, even if they were free.  I typically do not write what is considered &quot;literary&quot; anything.  I write my own version of literary, but I find what society deems as &quot;literary&quot; these days (at least by what is published) to be synonymous with &quot;boring as all hell.&quot;

WOTF, however, is on my hit list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, David said everything I think I was going to say, but in more accurate terms.</p>
<p>To be fair, most of the places that charge a reading fee are places I wouldn&#8217;t submit to anyway, even if they were free.  I typically do not write what is considered &#8220;literary&#8221; anything.  I write my own version of literary, but I find what society deems as &#8220;literary&#8221; these days (at least by what is published) to be synonymous with &#8220;boring as all hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>WOTF, however, is on my hit list.</p>
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		<title>By: David Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I spliced part of your quote in with my text by accident.  I meant to just say &quot;I’ll stick with my usual way of making important decisions, my magic 8-ball. :)&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I spliced part of your quote in with my text by accident.  I meant to just say &#8220;I’ll stick with my usual way of making important decisions, my magic 8-ball. <img src='http://www.jordanlapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, I’ve already won WotF, I&#039;ll stick with my usual way of making important decisions, my magic 8-ball.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, I’ve already won WotF, I&#8217;ll stick with my usual way of making important decisions, my magic 8-ball.  <img src='http://www.jordanlapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: A Basic Lesson in Statistics - Without Really Trying</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Basic Lesson in Statistics - Without Really Trying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my &#8220;money always flows towards the writer&#8221; post, I said that if your odds of winning a contest was 1% you had a good chance of winning over 100 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my &#8220;money always flows towards the writer&#8221; post, I said that if your odds of winning a contest was 1% you had a good chance of winning over 100 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.jordanlapp.com/should-money-always-flow-towards-the-writer/comment-page-1/#comment-2263</link>
		<dc:creator>jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Random chance&quot; was my weasel word there. I should have said &quot;random chance says you SHOULD win&quot;.

Yeah, as I a said to Shaun, it&#039;s that 1% chance that&#039;s the tricky point. However, I&#039;ve already won WotF, and that contest is only available to new authors, so I think 1% is a pretty reasonable guess.

The piece I wrote was extremely literary. Like, existentialism, weak speculative element etc... So, yeah, GlimmerTrain is tough, but I still don&#039;t think it&#039;s an unwinnable contest</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Random chance&#8221; was my weasel word there. I should have said &#8220;random chance says you SHOULD win&#8221;.</p>
<p>Yeah, as I a said to Shaun, it&#8217;s that 1% chance that&#8217;s the tricky point. However, I&#8217;ve already won WotF, and that contest is only available to new authors, so I think 1% is a pretty reasonable guess.</p>
<p>The piece I wrote was extremely literary. Like, existentialism, weak speculative element etc&#8230; So, yeah, GlimmerTrain is tough, but I still don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an unwinnable contest</p>
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		<title>By: David Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also,  I&#039;m not sure what the ellipsis in your formula represents, so I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re saying.  

Your odds of being rejected for 100 submissions are (99/100) to the 100th power, which is about .366.  My whole point from the beginning is that 63.4% chance of winning in 100 tries on average, is quite different than saying that you can expect to win in 100 tries.

It doesn&#039;t really matter, anyway, but I just thought I&#039;d try to clear up the confusion about what I was saying.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also,  I&#8217;m not sure what the ellipsis in your formula represents, so I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re saying.  </p>
<p>Your odds of being rejected for 100 submissions are (99/100) to the 100th power, which is about .366.  My whole point from the beginning is that 63.4% chance of winning in 100 tries on average, is quite different than saying that you can expect to win in 100 tries.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t really matter, anyway, but I just thought I&#8217;d try to clear up the confusion about what I was saying.  <img src='http://www.jordanlapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;random chance says that you will place in a hundred entries.&quot;

This is where you said you WOULD win in 100 tries.  I see you did contradict yourself later in the same post.  I was pointing out that ON AVERAGE you would win in 100 tries, which is not the same thing as saying you WILL win in 100 tries.

And of course disregarding the fact that you have no way of knowing that 1% is even remotely accurate.  My chance of winning that contest is 0% because what I value in a story is mutually exclusive to what they value.  :)

I like the idea of doing a cost-benefit analysis, but when the only numbers you have are only based on guesses and not data, I have my doubts about what the benefit of such a cost-benefit analysis could possibly be.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;random chance says that you will place in a hundred entries.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is where you said you WOULD win in 100 tries.  I see you did contradict yourself later in the same post.  I was pointing out that ON AVERAGE you would win in 100 tries, which is not the same thing as saying you WILL win in 100 tries.</p>
<p>And of course disregarding the fact that you have no way of knowing that 1% is even remotely accurate.  My chance of winning that contest is 0% because what I value in a story is mutually exclusive to what they value.  <img src='http://www.jordanlapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I like the idea of doing a cost-benefit analysis, but when the only numbers you have are only based on guesses and not data, I have my doubts about what the benefit of such a cost-benefit analysis could possibly be.  <img src='http://www.jordanlapp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I don&#039;t think you read the rest of my comment, where I said that you might not win in a thousand tries.

Further, I think you need to take a stats class &gt;:)

In your coin scenario, you have a really good chance of getting a head in one of those two flips. Put it this way: The odds of getting two tails is 1/2 * 1/2, which is 1/4, so you have a 3/4 chance of getting heads in one of those two flips.

Look at it this way. These are the possible flips for two coins:

H, H
H, T
T, H
T, T

In only one of those four, do you NOT get a &quot;head&quot;.

In the GlimmerTrain example, you have a 1/100 * 1/100 * 1/100... to 100 chance of NOT winning, assuming your odds are calculated correctly. This means it is very probable that you will win, but not guaranteed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I don&#8217;t think you read the rest of my comment, where I said that you might not win in a thousand tries.</p>
<p>Further, I think you need to take a stats class >:)</p>
<p>In your coin scenario, you have a really good chance of getting a head in one of those two flips. Put it this way: The odds of getting two tails is 1/2 * 1/2, which is 1/4, so you have a 3/4 chance of getting heads in one of those two flips.</p>
<p>Look at it this way. These are the possible flips for two coins:</p>
<p>H, H<br />
H, T<br />
T, H<br />
T, T</p>
<p>In only one of those four, do you NOT get a &#8220;head&#8221;.</p>
<p>In the GlimmerTrain example, you have a 1/100 * 1/100 * 1/100&#8230; to 100 chance of NOT winning, assuming your odds are calculated correctly. This means it is very probable that you will win, but not guaranteed.</p>
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		<title>By: David Steffen</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Steffen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;However, if your odds of winning at 1% each time you enter, random chance says that you will place in a hundred entries.&quot;

That&#039;s not true.  By the same reasoning, if you flip a fair coin twice, it will come up heads one of those two times.  Which does not always happen.

Anyway, the stats details are a digression, just pointing out that a 1% chance does not suggest success in 100 tries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;However, if your odds of winning at 1% each time you enter, random chance says that you will place in a hundred entries.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not true.  By the same reasoning, if you flip a fair coin twice, it will come up heads one of those two times.  Which does not always happen.</p>
<p>Anyway, the stats details are a digression, just pointing out that a 1% chance does not suggest success in 100 tries.</p>
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		<title>By: jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t follow you Dave. Where did I say that entry were related to each other???

However, if your odds of winning at 1% each time you enter, random chance says that you will place in a hundred entries. Not necessarily, of course, if you&#039;re SUPER unlucky, it could take a thousand times, or you could never place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t follow you Dave. Where did I say that entry were related to each other???</p>
<p>However, if your odds of winning at 1% each time you enter, random chance says that you will place in a hundred entries. Not necessarily, of course, if you&#8217;re SUPER unlucky, it could take a thousand times, or you could never place.</p>
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